Emmy-winning producer and reality TV trailblazer Tom Shelly (yep, one of the original Survivor masterminds) joins us to spill stories from the wild early days—like directing America’s Most Wanted, watching the Survivor crew accidentally torture starving contestants by coming back from lunch smelling like cheeseburgers, and dealing with actual bags of cocaine washing up on set. Plus, surprise twist: Tom’s a fellow Hoosier who even went to the same high school as D. Small world, big stories.