In this episode of The Hanley Effect, Dr. John Dyben and Dr. Rachel Docekal sit down with Michael Herbert, a seasoned addiction counselor, interventionist, recovery coach, and author of The Recovery Roadmap: A Guide to Freedom and Adventure. With over 30 years of experience helping people heal, Michael brings not only deep professional insight but also a remarkable personal journey of transformation.

From running 155 miles through the Sahara Desert to feeding wild hyenas in Ethiopia, Michael's life is anything but ordinary, and so is his approach to recovery.

He shares why he believes the first months of sobriety are a time of discovery, not recovery, how he helps clients design their own unique path, and why traditional cookie-cutter methods often fall short when it comes to building a sustainable, joyful life.

Whether you're s ...