Al has a confession: he doesn't play racing games. Tim and Lucas do. This was always going to be an interesting conversation.

In this episode, the three of us trace the full arc of racing games, from chucking 10p into Outrun at the arcade to Formula 1 drivers logging laps on iRacing between Grand Prix weekends. We argue about whether Driver counts as a racing game, mourn the fact that Lucas has never heard of Wipeout, celebrate Mario Kart's role as the ultimate family destroyer, and spend a suspicious amount of time on the Forza Horizon open world and what people get up to on its motorways.

We also tackle the big question: has the simulation side of the genre hit a ceiling? And if arcade racing still has room to grow, what does that actually look like?

Ian is not here. He has not been sacked (yet).