It is always a pleasure to record the Crown House EduTalk podcasts, but this one is particularly special.

We get the opportunity to talk to one of our educational heroes, Michael Fullan, who has been purveying common sense and inspiration based on sound research for decades. Added to that, we are joined by Fiona Millar, journalist, campaigner and someone who was at the heart of New Labour in its heyday. Fiona is always clear, direct, perceptive, well-informed and very smart.

We also owe a special thank you to