Liz and Helen discuss "Nisei," along with objet d'arts, the chicken dance, and our upcoming episode with guest star Mallory Marlowe (author of Love and Other Conspiracies)! Plus, more about Muskrat Love. Helen's Venmo is @Helen-Werner88. (The 88 is solely because she was born in 1988.)

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