Is PA23 the housing sector’s biggest headache or was it long‑overdue catalyst for change? In this fast‑paced episode, Hannah Quinn‑Hill sits down with sector leaders Alan Heron (Places for People), John Wallace (Clarion), and Emma Briggs (MTVH) to unpick the reality of Public Procurement Notice 23.

Together they explore the full journey: First reactions to PA23’s arrival, What PA23 actually means for housing associations, Burden vs brilliance and where the panel really stands Practical impacts on teams, suppliers, and procurement operations. Skills, capability, and culture shifts driven by the new requirements. What needs to change next and where the sector is heading over the next 18 months

Expect honest debate, lived experience, and sharp insights from leaders who are navigating PA23 on the ground every day.

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