Is it really controversial to say you're Catholic in 2026? We think so. And we said it anyway.

Two men - one a lifelong Catholic, one baptised two weeks before this episode - sit down for the first honest conversation about what it actually means to follow Jesus as an ordinary bloke in the modern world.

We talk about:

• Why the fear of becoming Catholic keeps more men out than bad theology does

• What finally pushed us both across the line

• What we want this podcast to be - and who it's for

0:00 - Welcome

0:11 - How Did We Come Up With The Name

1:51 - About Us

2:53 - What To Expect In The Coming Episodes

4:19 - The Fear Of Becoming Catholic

5:37 - Our Goal With This Podcast

6:44 - How Did We Meet?

9:50 - We're Always Learning

10:35 - What Was It  ...