This week Erika talks with Claudine Norden who gets candid about navigating the wild, wonderful, world of raising preteen girls. From the early years in pigtails to watching her girls gain independence, we talk about what it looks like guiding young women into finding themselves and learning how to stay yourself as motherhood changes.

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