Mike Kelso is my guest on the podcast. He’s been a mortgage professional in the Phoenix area since 2005.

We discuss whether one should own or rent in today’s real estate environment. We also discuss market predictions for the next 3-5 years.

We share our favorite memory when we were baseball teammates at Nicholls State University. I tell a story about playing JUCO Basebal—where there were more people on the field than in the stands— to playing in my first Division I series at Ole Miss.

Mike’s best NCAA memory was hitting a homerun with a new batting stance, then scoring even bigger when he met his now-wife—they have four kids. He talks about dealing with foreclosure during The Great Recession, his transformation to being the spiritual leader of his family, and how his faith has impacted his journey.

Other topics we ...