When Thank You Is Not Enough

by Justice For Vets

We say, “Thank you for your service.” We say we are “a grateful nation.” But what should we do when “thank you” isn’t enough?

Justice for Vets is the leading organization working to assist justice-involved veterans. Emphasizing resiliency and hope, we provide tangible solutions to address critical issues facing our veterans, such as justice involvement, substance use, and trauma. Hosted by Major General (ret.) Clyde “B ... 

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Podcast episodes

  • Season 2

  • Sharing Lived Experience: A Veteran’s Story

    Sharing Lived Experience: A Veteran’s Story

    "There really is a light at the end of the tunnel, and there are people there for you. I don’t care what you are going through. I am not going to judge you. I’ve been there." Paige Ott served in the United States Navy. Her experience was transformative and positive, but her transition out of the military was anything but smooth. Her life was changed in a Nebraska courtroom, where instead of punishment, she was connected to treatment and recovery support. As a certified peer recovery support specialist, Paige now uses her lived experience to help other veterans going through similar difficulties. As the founder of a nonprofit supporting veterans, she fosters community and empowers veterans to achieve and sustain recovery. You won’t want to miss her sit-down with Butch in episode 5 of "When Thank You Is Not Enough."

  • Peer Recovery Support: What It Is and Why It Works

    Peer Recovery Support: What It Is and Why It Works

    “It flips the justice system on its head from this notion that it has to be incapacitation or retribution or deterrence. And instead, we think, how can we make sure that this individual, after they've touched the justice system, that they leave healthy?” In episode 4, Butch continues the conversation about peer support with Dr. Jacqueline van Wormer, director of the All Rise Center for Advancing Justice. Dr. van Wormer offers insight into the vital role peer recovery support plays in assisting justice-involved individuals with accepting, sustaining, and thriving in treatment and recovery. An expert in program implementation and sustainability, Dr. Van Wormer walks through the steps of implementing peer support and the elements critical to its success with the justice-involved population. For more on peer recovery support, click here.

  • The Power of VA Peer Support

    The Power of VA Peer Support

    Episode 3 kicks off a two-part series on peer support, starting with how the VA is expanding peer support to ensure justice-involved veterans have access to veterans with lived experience who provide individualized assistance connecting to VA services. Butch talks with the VA’s National Peer Services Coordinator Antonio Harris, LCSW, about the difference between VA peers and veteran mentors and the way in which both roles compliment each other and offer a more robust network of support and guidance to justice-involved veterans. Stay tuned for episode 4 which will dive into community peer support.

  • All you need to know about legal services for veterans

    All you need to know about legal services for veterans

    Veterans who are homeless or at risk for homelessness often face legal issues that make it difficult for them to obtain or maintain stable housing. Thanks to the VA's Legal Services for Veterans program, these needs are now being met in unique and effective ways. Butch sits down with program's national coordinator Madolyn Gingell to talk about how veterans can access legal support and the new grant program that is empowering local legal providers to assist. If you are a veteran in crisis please call the Veterans Crisis Line: Dial 988 and press 1 Click here for more on the Legal Services for Veterans program.

  • Veterans Justice Outreach

    Veterans Justice Outreach

    In the first episode of season 2, Butch sits down with Katie Stewart, L.C.S.W., national coordinator of the Veterans Justice Outreach (VJO) Program for a deep dive into the the many ways VJOs ensure that justice-involved veterans have access to the care, services, and other benefits they’ve earned. VJOs help maximize veterans’ potential for success and stability in the community, including by helping them avoid homelessness and ending their involvement in the justice system. The discussion includes an explanation of the Veterans Re-Entry Search Service, a vital resource for identifying justice-involved veterans and linking them with care. If you are a veteran in crisis please call the Veterans Crisis Line: Dial 988 and press 1 Click here for more on the Veterans Justice Outreach Program.