This is a remix rerun of an episode I did with Bird Call (aka Chiara Angelicola). Chiara and I came up in the San Francisco music scene together, even collaborated (hear the unearthed live recording courtesy of Not Quite The 80's host DK Coleo. back in his Spicy Meat Parade days, 15 years ago). Chiara and I both moved to LA, so we draw contrasts to home and LA.

Also, hear Chiara and I discuss the creative process, and we reconnect after not speaking to one another for over a decade (sometimes we think we are at odds, when we are not).

Tune into this elevated discussion about life ...