Today, we travel to Europe where there is a fierce political fight taking place for the animals.

And to address this topic, I have with me José Luis Murillo, the General Director of Animal Welfare Observatory. Jose and I discussed how Animal Welfare Observatory was able to make it a policy to have cameras in Spanish slaughterhouses and their plans to make it happen everywhere else in Europe, the clash his organization has with big Ag lobbyists, how his team convinced corporations that animal welfare reforms were lucrative, if there is hope for animal rights activists to get between animal and plant farmers and much more.

Connect with the Animal Welfare Observatory: https://animalwelfareobservatory.org/

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