In this conversation, I chat with David from Washington DC – originally from Hawaii. He had a job offer before making the move in 2022. We delve into topics such as outdoor activities, the housing market, and the differences in living conditions between the two countries, providing insights into the expat experience in New Zealand. We discusses the integration of Māori culture in schools in a diverse environment. The conversation also touches on the practical aspects of moving, such as the cost of living and grocery shopping, and the dynamics of family life in a new country. David’s kids are much younger than mine. Key points include the natural beauty of the country and the differences in political discourse compared to the United States