3 Pastors, 1 Challenge: Healthy Ministry Beyond the Metrics

In this special wrap-up episode of Beyond the Numbers, I bring together three experienced ministry leaders — Katelyn, Ed, and Taylor — to answer the big question: What does a healthy church look like when you’re not just measuring attendance or revenue?

With several decades of combined service we unpack:

- How to spot signs of health that don’t show up on a spreadsheet

- What to do when the church culture chases numbers instead of people

- What leadership development looks in different ministry environments

- Building a strong christian community inside and outside of the the building

- The role of genuine relationships, spiritual depth, and volunteer care in real ministry

- Mistakes we’ve seen and how you can avoid them

If you’re a pastor, Next-Gen leader, or ministry team wanting to ...