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Nathan Apffel is an Emmy-winning filmmaker whose work challenges the status quo, pushing audiences to question and engage with the world around them. With a passion for creating thought-provoking projects, Nathan uses his storytelling to

expose the hidden flaws within our institutions, inspiring real-world impact and social change. Chris Ayoub is a seasoned leader with over 20 years of experience, from commanding in the Armed Forces to building thriving businesses. His entrepreneurial spirit and commitment to making a positive impact have driven his success, as he relentlessly seeks to reshape systems and create lasting change. Together, they are on a mission to leave a better world for their children by confronting the entrenched issues within religious and nonprofit institutions. Guided by the belief that light is ... 

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