This episode finds Luke and Kevin again interviewing veteran meditation instructor Chris Curren. Our conversation explores a profound societal shift: the breakdown of old, manipulative narratives (in media, medicine, education, and politics) and the emerging thirst for truth, reality, and spiritual reconnection. Will this important moment in history open up an opportunity for authentic human flourishing, virtue, and new mythologies that reconnect people to deeper truth and shared heritage? Tune in to hear our thoughts. And, as always, thanks for listening.

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