In this episode, we dive into anti-dystopia because the world feels heavy, and Heated Rivalry gave us something radically different: joy. We talk about escapism and why consuming something earnest and romantic can actually feel restorative instead of avoidant.

We’re joined by Jenka Garfinkel, who wrote “Heated Rivalry is Anti-Dystopian Art,” and she helps us unpack how modern media conditions us to expect brutality and punishment - especially around sex and intimacy - and how Heated Rivalry subverts that template. We discuss why feeling hope might be the most radical thing of all.