In this episode of The Babymakers Podcast, Dr. Danica Thornberry meets with Dr. Rayan Elkhattah (aka “Dr E”), an endometriosis excision surgeon making a big difference in the Los Angeles fertility community.

Together they unpack why endo is so frequently misunderstood and therefore misdiagnosed; setting the stage for an empowering episode about self advocacy + partnership with our providers when we’re on the path to baby/healing.

The term “medical gaslighting” is discussed and how it still occurs in modern healthcare (particularly in gynecology & infertility practices), to highlight the pivot that occurs when we work with a physician who listens to their patients.

Dr. Elkhattah explains how endometriosis isn’t a clear cut surgical disease, and why even the best excision surgery has limits—if the nervous system, immune syst ...