In this episode of The Internal Shift Show, Debbie Longo speaks with Rick and Clancy about how major life transitions can reshape identity, relationships, and purpose.

The conversation begins with the moment many parents face but rarely prepare for—the transition to becoming empty nesters. Rick reflects on how the phrase itself carries a negative connotation, often associated with loss and loneliness. Instead of accepting that narrative, Rick and Clancy chose to approach the change differently.

They share how shifting their perspective allowed them to see the transition not as something ending, but as something evolving. What initially appeared to be a difficult emotional adjustment became an opportunity to redefine priorities, rediscover independence, and create a new chapter in their lives together.

Throughout the dis ...