Episode 4: Outsider/Insider Embodied

The first part of Ray & Ezra’s conversation with Lerna Ekmekcioglu offers historical and personal context for the identities that she encompasses as an Armenian Christian and Turkish national, and as an émigré to the United States. This discussion adds depth and nuance to the ideas developed in episode 1 and episode 2:

1. The invisible logic of collective bonding
2. The value of outsider-insider relationships

We’re excited to share the fourth episode of