Day 3: "A Feeling of Rage Towards Willy Wonka" (with Max Grove!)

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Dessert historian Max Grove joins the pod to discuss his personal history with desserts AND with Willy Wonka himself, as well the parallels between Willy Wonka and other great fictional characters like Paul Atreides, Tommy Shelby, Charlie Kelly, and Santa Claus.

Hosts: Carlin Decker and Erik Wells

Guest: Max Grove

Edited by: Erik Wells