In this episode, Eloiza and Andrés dive deep into the evolving world of hobbies and leisure, questioning whether we've systematically optimized joy out of existence—or if what we lost was inevitable in a culture obsessed with productivity. They explore why people are abandoning creative pursuits, how capitalism transformed passion into profit, and what this seismic shift means for our mental health, creativity, and sense of fulfillment. From the psychology of GRINDIFICATION to the real-world cost of optimization culture, this conversation will make you rethink everything you thought you knew about work-life balance and what it means to truly live.

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