Heidi Custers, Strategy and Transformation Director at Backbase, sits down with Wessel Oosthuizen, co-lead of the AWS AI and Data team for Deloitte Africa, to work through why bank AI programs stall - and what it actually takes to fix them.

Their starting point is a Deloitte statistic from a recent report that frames the whole conversation: 84% of companies haven't redesigned a single job around AI. Wessel argues that banks are making real technology investments while leaving their people and operating models exactly where they found them. As a result, the tech moves, but the organization doesn't.

Heidi pushes on the practical reality for regulated institutions - how to move fast without gutting compliance, why standalone AI pilots rarely stick, and how a front-to-back wedge approach lets business unit leaders reimagine their own proc ...