In Episode 19, Mike and Drew hit the road and record an almost full hour of unedited conversation while driving down to Bend, Oregon for meetings. The convo quickly flows into what it’s like to co-captain Roy Farms together; Dividing roles and responsibilities, the different skill sets we each bring to the operation, and how understanding each other’s energy management systems has become a critical part of making the partnership work. Learning how each person shows up — mentally, physically, and emotionally — is just as important as the work itself. This episode is about partnership and removing those energy vampires!