🎧 Holiday Listening: Episode 17, Part 1: The Human Algorithm: How Sameer Modha Measures What Really Matters

Between Christmas and New Year’s is a rare moment.

No meetings. Fewer notifications. More thinking.

In Part 1 of Matt Butler's conversation with Sameer Modha, we talk about career journeys, the philosophy of data and marketing, why measurement breaks down, and what honesty actually means when business impact is on the line.

This is a long conversation by design.

Save it for a walk. A drive. A quiet morning.

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