In this episode of We’re Not Experts, hosts Tez and Mac lean into their signature style of candid, self-aware banter.

They kick things off embracing the idea that the older you get, the more you realize how much you don't know, referencing Benjamin Franklin via How to Win Friends and Influence People.

The conversation flows through personal anecdotes—like last-minute back-to-school hustle—and observations on how COVID-19 has magnified how fast kids grow up. Then, they pivot to a serious tone: discussing a major Raleigh drug bust involving fentanyl and presses on the impact of criminal activity invading everyday communities.

Next, relationships and trust take center stage as they dissect the nuances of honesty, fidelity, and emotional burden—particularly how constant reassurance can become draining.

They explore loyalty ...