What happens when suffering becomes your greatest teacher?

In this powerful episode of The Teaching Journeys Podcast, host Dave Roberts sits down with Kelsey Dunbar and Marc Rogala — co-founders of the Suffer to Tougher resilience and mental wellness movement — for an honest, raw conversation about trauma, addiction recovery, and transformation.

Kelsey shares how childhood abandonment, military school, and obesity-driven suicidal ideation led him to a 30-year career as a fitness and mindset coach. Marc opens up about battling alcohol and opioid addiction — including multiple overdoses, a near-fatal car accident, and losing his family — and how a 45-minute conversation from a stranger in psychiatric care changed everything.

Together, they discuss:

• How early childhood experiences shape mental health and addiction

• B ...