The Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast

The Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast

by Thomas Richard

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Philippe Caturegli, Founder & Chief Hacking Officer, Seralys

Exploring Cybersecurity Careers: Insights from Philippe Caturegli, Chief Hacking Officer, Seralys In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast, Thomas is joined by Philippe, a seasoned cybersecurity professional with an extensive career in web development and security roles. Philippe shares his journey from vulnerability researcher to Chief Hacking Officer of his own firm, Seralys, and discusses the importance of passion and curiosity in cybersecurity. He touches on how AI is revolutionizing the field but emphasizes the irreplaceable value of human expertise. Philippe also talks about the importance of understanding the business impact of vulnerabilities and offers advice for aspiring pentesters. The episode provides valuable insights into the challenges and rewards of a career in cybersecurity. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:32 Philippe's Career Journey 01:20 LinkedIn and Content Sharing 02:54 Day in the Life of a Chief Hacking Officer 03:40 The Importance of Hands-On Experience 09:07 AI in Cybersecurity 11:33 Staying Updated in Cybersecurity 13:02 Transitioning to Entrepreneurship 17:16 Understanding Developer Shortcuts 17:41 Recommended Programming Languages 18:36 Legacy Systems and Security 19:00 Getting into Pen Testing 19:38 Bug Bounty Programs 20:35 The Art of Exploitation 21:26 The Importance of Proof of Concept 25:56 Building a Strong Security Team 29:03 Real-World Security Challenges 30:36 Career Advice and Growth 32:23 Recommended Reading and Resources 33:34 Conclusion and Farewell Philippe suggested: Kevin Mitnick’s Books Philippe's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caturegli/

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Rob McGowan, President R3, LLC

From Ground Zero to Success: Rob McGowan's Journey in Cybersecurity In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast, Thomas interviews Rob McGowan, President of R3, who shares his journey from being a VP of Operations at BD Net Corp to leading R3. Rob discusses the challenges he faced, including the logistics of balancing a demanding schedule, family responsibilities, and starting a business from scratch. He emphasizes the importance of physical fitness, mental health, determination, and a strong support system. Rob also touches on his company's strategic decisions, such as adopting cloud-first methodologies and maintaining a high-growth mindset despite market conditions. He shares his hiring philosophy, focusing on drive, ambition, and the willingness to take risks. The importance of mentorship and mental health in his personal and professional life is also highlighted. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:04 Rob McGowan's Background and Career Journey 01:49 A Day in the Life of Rob McGowan 04:30 The Leap to Entrepreneurship 00:17 Building and Scaling R3 14:19 Navigating Market Challenges and Growth Strategies 22:17 Future Aspirations and Closing Thoughts 24:18 The Importance of Work and Identity 25:34 The Role of Mentors in Personal Growth 25:49 Mental Health and Personal Experiences 27:36 Coping Mechanisms and Self-Awareness 29:20 The Impact of Meditation and Stress Management 31:14 Challenges and Lessons in Business 39:51 Hiring the Right People 44:11 Influential Books and Podcasts 46:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Rob suggested: Good to Great by Jim Collins Acquired podcast hosted by Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal What Got You Here Won’t Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith The E-Myth Revisited by Michael E. Gerber The Innovative Seller by Jake Dunlap

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Michael Lisi, Founder & Principal Consultant, Maltek Solutions

Navigating the Cybersecurity Job Market with Michael Lisi In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Thomas is joined by Michael Lisi, who shares insights into the bustling opportunities within the cybersecurity space despite current market layoffs. Michael discusses his extensive background from programmer analyst to multiple roles, including President of Red Team Village and Founder of Maltek Solutions. They dive into a typical day in Michael's life, his transition from employee to business owner, and the unique challenges and rewards that come with it. Michael shares specific strategies for new business development, particularly leveraging job postings to find clients in need of immediate assistance. They also explore the impact of AI on the industry, the significance of community involvement, and how volunteer work can lead to unexpected opportunities. Finally, they touch upon pivotal books that influenced Michael's career, providing invaluable advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals and business owners. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:18 Current Cybersecurity Landscape 01:16 Mike's Career Journey 02:11 A Day in the Life of Mike 05:05 Transition from Employee to Employer 09:15 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity 15:16 Nurturing Junior Talent 21:05 Team Dynamics and Customer Insights 22:14 Improving Communication and Presentation Skills 22:41 Transitioning to Offensive Security 25:54 Starting a Freelance Penetration Testing Business 30:33 Networking and Volunteering for Career Growth 34:23 The Importance of Long-Term Business Relationships 35:58 Recommended Books for Career and Business Success 40:02 Final Thoughts and Future Plans Michael suggested: Art of Intrusion by Kevin Mitnick Ghost In The Wires by Kevin Mitcnick The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Matthew Legler, Director Cyber Engineering, FATHOM5

Navigating the Transition from Federal to Commercial Cybersecurity with Matthew Legler In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Thomas welcomes Matthew Legler, an experienced professional with a rich background in naval reactors and cybersecurity. Matt shares his journey from working in naval reactors to becoming the Chief Information Officer (CIO) and later transitioning into the commercial sector as a founder and director of cyber engineering. He emphasizes the importance of communication, building relationships, and staying adaptable in the fast-evolving field of cybersecurity. Matt also discusses his experiences with AI, the challenges of aligning educational curricula with industry needs, and the value of standing out in a competitive job market. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:33 Matt's Background and Career Journey 01:16 Transitioning from Navy to Commercial Sector 02:49 Challenges and Adaptability in Cybersecurity 04:37 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity 05:46 Education and AI Integration 07:59 Navigating the Commercial World 17:18 Communication and Leadership Skills 20:14 The Struggle to Write Well 20:57 Upskilling Through Experience 22:05 The Role of AI in Writing 23:10 Navigating Job Offers and Applications 24:38 The Importance of Personal Connections 27:13 Hiring Insights and Skills Demand 30:00 The Future of Work and Education 32:58 Learning and Self-Development Resources 36:47 Concluding Thoughts

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Christian Espinosa, Founder, Blue Goat Cyber

Mastering MedTech Cybersecurity: A Journey with Christian Espinosa In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Thomas interviews Christian Espinosa, an accomplished cybersecurity expert and entrepreneur. Christian shares his experiences and insights from his diverse career, which began in the US Air Force and progressed through various roles to founding Blue Goat Cyber, a MedTech cybersecurity company. They discuss Christian's extensive travels, his passion for continuous learning, and the challenges and strategies of transitioning from the military to the commercial sector. Christian delves into the specific challenges of MedTech cybersecurity, emphasizing the importance of niche focus, understanding regulatory requirements, and the critical nature of patient safety. The conversation also covers the significance of emotional intelligence in cybersecurity, the impact of a strong leadership team, and Christian's journey of personal growth and resilience, including overcoming serious health challenges. Christian talks about the 2 books he has published, and the 3rd he is currently writing. Tune in to gain valuable insights on cybersecurity, entrepreneurship, and the power of mindset. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:11 Travel Plans and Adventures 01:46 Christian's Background and Career Journey 02:50 A Day in the Life of Christian 05:16 Transitioning from Military to Commercial 08:17 Entrepreneurial Challenges and Growth 12:55 Scaling and Leadership 17:27 Niche Focus and Community Building 22:03 The High Stakes of MedTech Cybersecurity 23:29 Transitioning from Traditional to MedTech Cybersecurity 28:08 The Complexities of MedTech Penetration Testing 30:20 Christian's Journey: From Cybersecurity to Author and Speaker 34:07 Overcoming Personal Challenges and Shifting Narratives 38:57 Future Goals and Aspirations for Blue Goat Cyber Christian suggested: $100M Offers by Alex Hormozi. The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. The Smartest Person in the Room by Christian Espinosa The In-Between: Life in the Macro by Christian Espinosa

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Michael Bakaic, Founder, Iceberg Cyber

Overcoming Challenges in Cybersecurity and Business: Insights from Michael Bakaic In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast, Tom chats with Michael Bakaic, Founder of Iceberg Cyber. Michael shares his journey from building race cars at the University of Toronto to navigating the complexities of starting and scaling cybersecurity businesses. They discuss the importance of personal branding, the value of referrals, and strategies for maintaining resilience in the face of challenges. Michael also offers advice on attending events, leveraging LinkedIn for job seekers, and the significance of being persistent and focusing on both sales and marketing. Additionally, they delve into dealing with tough times in business and the essential mindset needed for continuous progress. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:49 Michael's Background and Career Journey 02:29 Challenges and Rewards of Podcasting 04:06 Scaling a Business and Managing Reputation 07:30 The Power of Referrals 14:35 Personal Branding and Social Media Strategy 24:42 Starting and Growing a Business 25:07 Lessons from a Failed Startup 25:53 The Importance of Sales in Every Role 27:55 Persistence and Feedback in Job Hunting 34:35 Effective Networking at Events 45:06 Overcoming Challenges and Staying Focused 48:38 Recommended Reads and Final Thoughts Michael suggested: How I Rob Banks by FC Barker

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Gregory Crabb, Founder and Principal Cybersecurity Consultant, 10-8, LLC

Navigating Cybersecurity Startups & Investment: Insights from Gregory Crabb In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Thomas hosts Gregory Crabb, a highly accomplished figure in the cybersecurity field. They discuss the challenges and rewards of managing multiple startups, the importance of adaptability, finding product-market fit, and the role of resourcefulness in early-stage companies. Gregory shares his experiences, including his work with Ballistic Ventures and significant points from his career, like his tenure at the USPS and founding his own cybersecurity company. They delve into the importance of customer feedback, differentiating from competitors, and effective go-to-market strategies. Gregory also touches upon his consulting work, particularly around insider risk, bringing a wealth of knowledge from his diverse background in cybersecurity. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:27 The Challenges of Early-Stage Cybersecurity Companies 01:56 Greg's Background and Career Journey 12:09 The Importance of Customer Focus in Startups 17:18 Navigating the Cybersecurity Market 29:11 Go-to-Market Strategies for Startups 36:01 Investment Insights and Red Flags 37:51 Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Carlos Fernandes, Chief Executive Officer, Agile Cybersecurity Solutions

Insights from Carlos Fernandes: From US Air Force to Cyber Security Entrepreneur In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast, Thomas welcomes guest Carlos Fernandes, a seasoned cybersecurity expert and entrepreneur. Carlos shares his journey from serving 10 years in the United States Air Force to climbing the ranks in various corporations, eventually establishing his own firm, Agile Cyber Security Solutions, over 13 years ago. The conversation explores Carlos's career trajectory, his views on the evolving cybersecurity landscape, and the importance of relationships and strategic thinking in the digital age. Carlos emphasizes the significance of hard work, adaptability, and the entrepreneurial mindset. The episode also touches on innovative hiring practices, the importance of mentoring the next generation, and Carlos's personal experiences and insights from writing his book. The episode is filled with valuable lessons for anyone interested in cybersecurity, career growth, and entrepreneurship. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:26 Carlos Fernandez's Career Journey 01:33 Travel and Work Locations 03:32 The Importance of Relationships in Cybersecurity 06:13 Challenges in Cybersecurity Deployment 08:18 Career Advice for Transitioning Veterans 13:48 Mentorship and Youth Engagement 14:59 Family and Personal Insights 16:49 Keys to Career Progression 19:14 Problem-Solving and Optimism 20:21 Leadership and Influence 20:44 Entrepreneurial Journey and Hiring Strategies 21:22 Non-Traditional Recruitment Approaches 23:18 Empowering Small Business Owners 24:20 Immigration Story and Book Promotion 25:20 Writing a Book: Process and Reflections 28:36 Entrepreneurial Mindset and Team Collaboration 31:56 Business Growth and Strategic Partnerships 37:20 Book Recommendations and Personal Insights 39:07 Travel Plans and Final Thoughts Book recommendations from Carlos: Carlos' own book - The Big Idea No More Secrets: From Hurt Never Told to Transformational Truth by Adam Volant Adam Grant's books (Give and Take, Originals, or Think Again ) Atomic Habits by James Clear Good to Great by Jim Collins

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Christian Scott, Chief Executive Officer, Tantalum Labs

The Evolving Landscape of Cybersecurity Recruitment and AI Integration In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Tom speaks with Christian Scott about the rapidly changing landscape of cybersecurity recruitment and the impact of AI. They discuss the evolution of pen testing, the implications of generative AI, and the increasing use of AI tools in cybersecurity. Christian shares his insights on the future of AI in cybersecurity, the rise of agentic frameworks, and the potential for increased black hat hacker behavior due to market changes. They also explore the importance of maintaining human elements in a heavily automated industry and provide practical advice for business owners and recruiters navigating these innovations. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:54 Reflecting on Past Episodes 01:17 Changes in Pen Testing and AI 02:17 Generative AI in Cybersecurity 02:50 Future of Pen Testing and AI Tools 04:42 Human Element in Rapid Tech Evolution 15:04 AI's Impact on Cybersecurity Recruitment 18:21 Job Market Dynamics and AI 22:44 AI Model Collapse and Future Considerations 26:02 Navigating AI Challenges and Limitations 27:58 The Human Element in Technology 28:38 Generative AI and Authenticity 31:42 AI in Recruitment and Personal Connection 33:35 Detecting AI Use in Interviews 37:35 Cybersecurity Threats and Deep Fakes 43:54 Advice for Business Owners 47:06 Resources for AI and Cybersecurity

The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to James Leach, Managing Principal/Co-founder, Fortreum

Navigating Entrepreneurship and Cybersecurity with James Leach In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast, Tom discusses James Leach's journey from a security engineer to co-founding the independent assessment and technical testing firm Fortreum. James shares insights on his career progression, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the importance of passion and grit in business. He emphasizes the value of being proactive, the need for company culture in remote setups, and the evolving landscape of AI in cybersecurity. The episode also delves into the significance of celebrating small wins and the necessity of continuous learning. James provides practical advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals, including the importance of certifications and specialized hands-on experience. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:30 James Leach's Career Journey 01:57 Entrepreneurship and Founding Fortreum 02:23 Challenges and Rewards of Bootstrapping 04:09 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs 05:50 Transition from Employee to Employer 07:27 Importance of Self-Awareness and Delegation 11:41 Building and Maintaining Company Culture 15:03 Remote Work and Company Values 17:46 Founding Principles and Company Culture 18:01 Future Plans and Innovations 19:47 Hiring Insights and Career Advice 25:49 The Impact and Challenges of AI 33:28 Entrepreneurial Wisdom and Recommendations 37:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts James suggested: Atomic Habits by James Clear Getting A Grip On Your Business by Gino Wickman
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