Ep. 72 | Gavin Newsom x Ben Shapi...

Ep. 72 | Gavin Newsom x Ben Shapiro – Is Newsom Actually a Moderate?

The California Conversation by Tess Abraham
E72
Jan 28, 2026
39:35

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Last week, Governor Gavin Newsom sat down with right-wing political commentator Ben Shapiro for a one hour and forty-minute-long conversation about everything from their personal lives to politics – and it was as intense, fast-paced, and interesting as it sounds. But what might have surprised you is that our beloved Governor didn’t sound quite as radical as he is often painted to be – could it be that Gavin Newsom is actually a moderate? I'm breaking it all down for you in this BONUS episode of The California Conversation!

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Timestamps:

00:00 – 04:02 Gavin Newsom vs. Ben Shapiro !!

04:03 – 12:17 Newsom’s Interview Tactics

12:18 – 21:30 Newsom on Immigration

21:31 – 25:56 Newsom on Housing

25:57 – 33:17 Newsom on the Economy

33:18 – 37:59 Newsom on Transgenderism

38:00 – 39:35 Final Thoughts

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