Content warning: discussion of addiction.

Jabe Largen grew up on a hillside in Appalachian Virginia surrounded by family, beauty, and loss. By his early teens, drugs had become the only thing that made him feel like himself. By his twenties, he had nothing left. And then, four months clean, standing in a small wooden church by a creek, something shifted.

He is now a United Methodist minister, a husband, a father, and the author of They Call Me Jabe: A Hillbilly Tale of Life, Death, and Grace, a memoir tracing the unlikely thread connecting addiction, death, grief, and grace across a single life.

In this conversation, Jabe talks about what it felt like when OxyContin hit Appalachia and changed everything, what he found on the other side of rock bottom, and what it means to sit with the dying as someone who has spent yea ...