Mike and Zoe reflect on the life and legacy of Jesse Jackson — the Baptist minister, civil rights activist, and two-time presidential candidate whose audacious campaigns reshaped the Democratic Party and expanded Black political power after the civil rights era. Their conversation explores his political legacy, the web’s reaction to his death, and several under-discussed dimensions of Jackson’s career, including the contradictions, strategic brilliance, and unfinished debates surrounding his place in American political history.