In this podcast we are in conversation with poet Tusiata Avia MNZM, who has won numerous awards for her work, and published collections including Wild Dogs Under My Skirt (2004), Fale Aitu | Spirit House (2016), the Ockham-award-winning The Savage Coloniser Book (2020), Big Fat Brown Bitch (2023), and Giving Birth to My Father (2025).

Thanks again to Roby Solly for the podcast's music, to Mauatua Fa'ara-Reynolds for editing and transcribing the episodes and for the cover art, and to the Royal Society for funding this podcast via a Marsden Fast-Start Grant.

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