Kevin Leomo is a very busy man. He spends his time working a full-time community engagement job, organising arts festivals (like the award-winning Creatives of Colour Festival), making experimental music and as a community organiser, fighting the good fight in Glasgow's cultural scene. In this episode, Kevin joins Zara to tackle one of the biggest questions “Spiralling” has covered to date: why are some people still in denial about racism in Scotland?

From Scottish exceptionalism to the reality of everyday racism, Kevin shares his experiences growing up between California and Scotland and reflects on a recent racist attack in Glasgow. Along the way, we discuss the power of food and culture, a difficult encounter with strangers in Luxembourg and what meaningful allyship actually looks like.

Plus, we discuss a dilemma p ...