In 2001, journalist Bethany McLean wrote a piece for Fortune magazine simply titled "Is Enron Overpriced?" It led to the landmark collapse of one of Wall Street's biggest companies under the weight of its shocking fraud. She also grew up in Hibbing, MN, home to America's rock 'n' roll laureate Bob Dylan, listening to Handle, Bach, Metallica, and Def Leppard. The former Goldman Sachs analyst turned Vanity Fair contributing editor, joins Nic to talk about her love for the Stones, Leonard Cohen, and the top 40 dance-pop music you hear in the background of most TikToks. She's the author of All the Devils Are Here, about the 2008 economic collapse, and is currently at work on a third book about the impacts of Covid-19 on the economy.