This is a guest conversation episode of Ship It Weekly, separate from the weekly news recaps.

In this Ship It: Conversations episode, I talk with Jake Warner, founder and CEO of Cycle.io, about private cloud, bare metal, Kubernetes fatigue, and why some teams are rethinking how much infrastructure complexity they actually want to carry.

We talk about why bare metal and private cloud are getting interesting again, especially around cost, performance, data sovereignty, compliance, and platform ownership. Jake explains how Cycle approaches infrastructure as a pool of resources, why he thinks in terms of “environments as code” instead of traditional infrastructure as code, and how teams can run containers and VMs together across bare metal, cloud, and hybrid environments.

The bigger theme here is that this is not re ...