Inside the Invisible War: AI, Cou...
Inside the Invisible War: AI, Counterintelligence, and America’s Critical Infrastructure
Robots and Red Tape by Nick Schutt
S2 · E27
Oct 14, 2025
01:02:35
Episode notes

AI is transforming our world, but is its infrastructure secure?

In this Robots and Red Tape episode, host Nick Schutt sits down with Matt Wesmiller, a counterintelligence veteran, to explore the unseen risks in critical infrastructure security. Matt reveals the complexity of supply chains, from adversary-controlled rare earth minerals to data poisoning threats in AI models.

“The human is always the weakest link,” he warns, citing insider threats like Robert Hanssen.

From intellectual property theft to fragile water systems, Matt emphasizes proactive counterintelligence to protect national security. Essential listening for those invested in AI’s risks and rewards. Tune in to uncover strategies to safeguard our tech-driven future.

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