Joining me and Jordan on the podcast as our first ever guest is the great Joe Zavala. Joe is well-known in the Texas BBQ scene as the charismatic founder of Zavala's BBQ in Grand Prairie, Texas. We chat about the black and white of what it takes to start a BBQ restaurant cooking with wood 24 hours per day. The ups, the downs, the smiles and frowns of restaurant ownership. Hope you enjoy and share if you will.