In this episode of the Prosperity, Not Poverty podcast, Magatte Wade speaks with former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott about the vital role fossil fuels play in driving prosperity, freedom, and human flourishing across the world.

They discuss the global push for Net Zero by 2050 and its potential consequences—from accelerating deindustrialization in Western countries to preventing developing nations from using their natural resources to achieve prosperity. The conversation also explores the geopolitical risks of restricting fossil fuel financing, including the possibility of increasing the Chinese Communist Party’s influence over natural resources in the developing world.