

Stephen Koukoulas
Episode notes
In Episode 3 of Pelly’s Podcast, Michael Pell sits down with one of Australia’s leading economists, Stephen Koukoulas.
With more than 30 years of experience across government, banking and financial markets, Stephen has served as Chief Economist at Citibank, worked in the Commonwealth Treasury and was Senior Economic Advisor to Prime Minister Julia Gillard.
Michael and Stephen unpack the Australian economy, interest rates, housing and where the property market could be heading next. They discuss why Stephen believes Australia can avoid a recession, the changing landscape for property investors, and why markets such as Melbourne could present opportunities over the years ahead.
But the conversation goes beyond economics. Stephen shares stories from his career, his time working alongside some of Australia’s most influential decision-makers, and the experiences that have shaped the way he thinks about money, markets and life.
A wide-ranging conversation about property, economics, opportunity and the lessons learned from a career spent at the centre of Australia’s economic landscape.
Real conversations. Real stories. Real lessons.
All with one goal: raising $1 million for FightMND.