At the Crossroads of Art and Magic with Jack Grayle and Luis Galindo

Welcome back Nightbirds! This week I was fortunate to be joined by Luis Galindo and Jack Grayle. We had a great conversation about fearlessly inhabiting the other, magic as art and art as magic, creation as as the essence of life, calling upon unseen powers, the spirit of play and ritual, and so much more! They also shared some great stories from the stage. I had a blast talking to them, and I just know you are going to enjoy listening.

Find Jack's courses at https://www.theblackthorneschool.com/ and visit his website at https://jackgrayle.com/

Find more about Luis' and read some of his poems at