This episode of Navigating the Cross, "Prayer, Conversion, and Apologetics," features host Spencer and guest Luis, a St. Leo University student. The discussion begins with Luis describing himself as a cradle Catholic submitted to Rome whose faith matured after his confirmation in eighth grade.

The hosts explore periods of spiritual lukewarmness, particularly during Luis's first year of college, where he describes being "Catholic only by name". Luis shares his journey of deepening his prayer life, starting with quiet time in the chapel and attending daily Mass in high school, sometimes even lying to friends to do so. A major point of the conversation is the hosts' mutual discovery—and subsequent shock—that many Catholics, including themselves, were never taught the practical necessity of avoiding Com ...