

Balancing Innovation and Nonproliferation in the Nuclear Age with John A. Lauder
National Security Law Today by National Security Law Today
E379
Jul 17, 2025
32:25
Episode notes
This week, Elisa is joined by John A. Lauder—former CIA official, arms control negotiator, and current Senior Fellow at the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control—to examine the tension between nuclear innovation and nonproliferation. From the postwar promise of Atoms for Peace to today’s AI-fueled energy demands, they unpack the rising interest in small reactors, mounting concerns within the nonproliferation community, and the difficult policy decisions facing U.S. leaders in the years ahead.
John A. Lauder is a Senior Fellow at the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control and is a cofounder of the James A. Garfield Center for Public Leadership at Hiram College.
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