CRIME, CONFLICT, AND POLICY : Inside the Grey Zone

In this episode, Dr. Vanda Felbab-Brown, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and one of the world’s leading experts on organized crime and insurgency joins Joe to dissect the murky intersection where illicit economies, state power, and armed conflict collide.

We explore how criminal networks shape governance, how states negotiate with armed actors, and why conventional security policy often fails in the so called “grey zone” between war and peace.