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Messy Thoughts

by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins

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Season 2

"The Family You Were Born Into" - Messy Thoughts 43

MESSY THOUGHTS 43. BJ, LeBron and Keller are in their feelings — and their family memories — for episode 43. What starts as a chaotic pre-show debate about running downtown Austin, ketchup packets, and In-N-Out fries somehow becomes a full deep dive into Pink's Black era, Kandi Burruss's songwriting empire, Real Housewives drama, and the case for Keke Palmer getting a podcast booking ASAP. Then things get real. BJ breaks down what it was like growing up as one of six kids in a big, loud, blended, beautiful Alabama family — and why that kind of family richness is getting harder to afford in America. LeBron shares what it meant to grow up with twins as siblings. Keller reflects on distance, communication, and what gets lost when you don't call enough. They debate what to actually unlearn from the way they were raised — the colorism jokes that don't translate outside the family, the emotional regulation nobody taught them, and the words that were just "normal" until they weren't. Plus: If someone handed you $7 million right now, how much would your siblings get? BJ's answer will make you gasp. LeBron's will make you laugh. And yes — "We're a family here" at your job orientation? They have thoughts. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins | Produced by Keller Davis 📲 Follow us: @messythoughts on Instagram, TikTok & YouTube 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com | 🌐 messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #Podcast #AustinPodcast #FamilyTalk #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #RealHousewives #KikiPalmer #GrowingUp #FamilyDrama

"Everything is Changing And We're Not Okay" - Messy Thoughts 42

MESSY THOUGHTS 42. BJ, LeBron, and a special appearance from Keller are back — and this one went everywhere. It starts with BJ's niceness finally running out on a stranger who had way too many opinions, then somehow spirals into bad Airbnb experiences, the most chaotic decisions that actually worked out, the most overrated things in existence (food trucks, run clubs, and one very specific music genre), and a deep Shrek shirt appreciation moment courtesy of Keller. Then things get real. The crew sits down with a topic that hits home for all three of them: change. How do you actually deal with it when it comes for your relationships, your body, your career, your community? When is resistance grief and when is it wisdom? They get into celebrity deaths disrupting their peace, Peter Pan syndrome in Austin's gay community, and what it looks like to stop trying to fit into spaces that were never built for you — and just go be somewhere you're actually wanted. Plus: Does BJ know who Ella Langley is? Keller and LeBron need answers. Drop your thoughts in the comments and find us on all socials. 🎙️ 📲 TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughtspod 🌐 messythoughts.com #messythoughts #blackpodcast #austinpodcast #gaypodcast #peterpansyndrome #airbnb #talkshow #podcastlife #selfimprovement #queerpodcast #changeyoucanbelievein #overrated

"We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41

MESSY THOUGHTS 41. This week BJ and LeBron are going full Messy Bowl — no regular agenda, just topics pulled straight from the bowl and a 10-minute clock. What could go wrong? Everything. In the best way. They kick things off venting about the absolute disrespect of apartment AC going out in the middle of summer, the art of negotiating thermostat settings with your parents, and why car maintenance should be illegal. BJ is 2,000 miles overdue for an oil change and has zero shame. Then the bowl takes over: Tequila vs. Vodka — BJ and LeBron debate which one deserves to be erased from existence forever. Spoiler: neither of them is going quietly. Wedding crashing, tiramisu cake, and Kyle at the Iron Bear all make appearances. Should there be a partner rating app? — Turns out, it already exists. And LeBron has a profile. With glowing reviews. BJ reads one live on air. This is journalism. Nostalgia is killing new art — Are millennials so obsessed with reboots and sequels that we've forgotten how to make something original? Toy Story 5, Coming to America 2, Avatar, The Incredibles... BJ and LeBron call it all out. Euphoria Season 3 — LeBron watched it. BJ didn't. That did not stop the conversation. Full spoilers, full opinions, full devastation. They break down what went wrong, what they wish had happened, and why they both wish they'd left it at Season 2. Drop your Messy Bowl topics in our comments or link in bio — your question might get pulled next time. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Like, subscribe, and share so we can keep the thoughts messy. 📲 Follow us: TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #PopCulture #PodcastLife #TalkShow #AustinPodcast #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #BlackAndGay

"Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40

MESSY THOUGHTS 40. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode kicks off with a genuinely philosophical detour — what if everyone you've ever met is just you in a different timeline? From there it's full send into: would you ever shapeshift into another race or body if you could (Mystique discourse is real), what it means to actually date as yourself instead of your PR rep, and the Whoopi Goldberg book that honestly snatched a wig. Oh, and friendships. The real kind. The ones where you can call out of nowhere and time just resets. The ones where someone hurt your feelings and you actually said something about it. The ones that get smaller as you get older — and why that's not always a bad thing. Plus: BJ's bold non-negotiables in both romance and friendship (yes, one of them involves eating something), LeBron's reincarnation preferences laid bare, and the very honest question of what are you even bringing to the table? Drop your five things you look for in a relationship in the comments — we actually want to know. 👇 New episodes of Messy Thoughts every week. Subscribe and come be messy with us. 🌐 messythoughts.com 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #RelationshipAdvice #LGBTQ #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #FriendshipGoals

"The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39

MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 39. What does it actually mean to be a hater — and is it always a bad thing? BJ and LeBron crack open some Trip melon cucumber drinks and get into it. They break down the real definition of a hater, why they think hating is honestly kind of built into us, and where the line is between healthy jealousy and straight-up toxic behavior. They call out the covert haters in your friend group, the ones sliding into your Instagram stories every day but never saying a word to your face. Then they take it to celebrity land — breaking down La Roche's judging style on Project Runway, Tamar Braxton's messy era, and a full Nicki Minaj deep dive on how insecurity can turn a legend into a hater. LeBron runs BJ through a round of "Friend or Foe" — three real-life scenarios to figure out if your people are actually your people. And the Messy Bowl makes its return with a spicy first-date question that they immediately decide deserves its own whole episode. Pull up. 🔗 Find us everywhere: messythoughts.com 📧 Submit to the Messy Bowl: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube Subscribe so you never miss an episode. #messythoughts #messythoughtspod #haters #nikciminaj #projectrunway #laroach #tamarbraxton #friendorfoe #blackpodcast #culturepodcast #gayblackmen #popculture #realitytvtea #dramawithaside #queerpodcast

"Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38

MESSY THOUGHTS 38. We're back. And we have thoughts. BJ and LeBron return from their mid-season break with a packed episode — movie quote challenges, Europe recaps, a run-in with a rude flight attendant, and a deep dive into whether the gay community actually practices what it preaches about love and self-acceptance. BJ just got back from Santorini, Greece (with a layover detour through Madrid that included a very... educational bathhouse visit), and LeBron filled his break with work, an Oura Ring, and a new theory about complimenting strangers on the street. It's a lot. We get into all of it. Then things get real. The guys ask a question nobody wants to answer honestly: do gay men actually celebrate each other — or are we too busy calculating each other's value the second someone walks through the door? From body politics to ageism, lookism, and exclusive party flyers, BJ and LeBron go there without apology. To close it out, the Messy Bowl makes its debut — and the first question pulled is spicy enough: do you actually have to be liked by your boyfriend's friends? Drop your answer in the comments. And if you've got a question for the Messy Bowl, send it our way. Follow Messy Thoughts: 🎙️ messythoughts.com 📸 Instagram: @messythoughtspod 🎵 TikTok: @messythoughtspod ▶️ YouTube: Messy Thoughts 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #GayCommunity #LGBTQPodcast #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #GayMen #PodcastForBlackGayMen #PopCulture #PrideTalk #ATXPodcast

"I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37

MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and the horror of everything going straight to your ass, before Colton gets into whether you're legally allowed to fire your therapist (and whether the problem is the therapist or… you). BJ steers us into the naked power-walker of downtown Austin, LeBron fights for the sanctity of clapping at the end of a movie, and somewhere in there Colton reveals the PF Chang's interview that quietly ended his modeling career. The back half goes fully off the rails: a movie tangent where the three of us basically just name films we half-remember and describe the plots wrong, a Players Club recap that raises more questions than it answers, a heated referendum on whether LA is fake, and the sacred bond between a mom and her lipstick mirror-notes. Colton also opens up about the Paris he'd blocked out for twelve years and why, these days, he "doesn't dance anymore." It gets real, it gets stupid, it gets H-E-B-reverent. BJ, LeBron, and Colton close it out with plans to flee to Spain and one lingering question about Katy Perry in space. The thoughts are messy. The bottoms are not. 🎙️ Special guest: Colton Dowling ▶️ Podcast: Some of This Is Bad 📸 IG: @coltondowling // @someofthisisbad ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 New episodes of Messy Thoughts with BJ & LeBron — subscribe & hit the bell 🎧 Also on Apple Podcasts & Spotify 📱 Follow for clips & chaos ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ #MessyThoughts #ColtonDowling #SomeOfThisIsBad #ComedyPodcast #QueerPodcast

"The Bald & The Beautiful (Dillion's Back!)" - Messy Thoughts 36

MESSY THOUGHTS 36. Dillion Kordell is BACK — bald, 30, and cussing out his comment section. 💅🏾 The girls are messy this week. Returning guest and Dillion Kordell Show host Dillion Kordell pulls up to break down his new bald-and-bold era, the art of arguing with racists in your comments, and why the internet is way more fun in your head than it actually is. BJ and LeBron get into everything from friend-group breakups and "love offline" to the manosphere, the "gayosphere," Pride history, and being unapologetically Black in white gay spaces. It gets real, it gets read-you-for-filth funny, and yes — BJ comes out as pansexual live on the mic (shout out to trigonometry). In this episode: – Dillion's bald glow-up and turning 30 – Clapping back at hateful comments (and living for the engagement) – The "tops in air quotes" debate + BJ's "power verse" declaration – Bringing a whole duffel bag to the club, and the great "Sigourney Weaver vs. Harriet Tubman" mix-up – Why you should NEVER date inside your friend group (a balcony story) – Monét exchange & Andy, canceled weddings, and the case for "love offline" – Soft launches, not posting your partner, and people who are always watching – Millennials vs. Gen Z, weaponized social media, and the Apple Music/Spotify wars – The manosphere, the "gayosphere," and hyper-masculinity in queer spaces – Pride Month, LGBTQ+ history, and why the L comes first – Race, segregated gay parties, and the pitch for "LeBron Undercover" – Frolic Weekend, being around your people, and Lift Every Voice – Whitney, Clive Davis, and why nobody at this table is getting in a helicopter New episodes every week. This is Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Guest: Dillion Kordell — The Dillion Kordell Show ▶️ [@dillionkordellshow] Follow Messy Thoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com Subscribe + turn on notifications so you never miss a mess. ⚠️ Mature content: explicit language + adult themes. 18+. #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast #austinpodcast

"Diamonds Are Forever with Diamond Dior Davenport" - Messy Thoughts 35

MESSY THOUGHTS 35. Austin drag icon Diamond Dior Davenport joins BJ and LeBron for one of the most personal, chaotic, and genuinely moving episodes yet. Diamond breaks down the full behind-the-scenes chaos of the Majestic Ball — her 35-minute Beyoncé Homecoming tribute set — from the costume that didn't fit five days before showtime to rehearsing stage blocking in the street with duct tape. She also opens up about navigating grief, the importance of therapy, working a 9-to-5 while running a full drag career, and the music journey that started with loss and ended with an eight-song album. We hear the full story of the bad producer who lost her vocal stems, how Julian changed everything, and why her new song might drop before Pride is over. Plus: The Cookout makes its Davenport edition debut — and Kennedy Davenport ends up exactly where you'd expect. Happy Pride, y'all. This one hits different. CATCH Messy Thoughts and GET TICKETS for "Some of this is Live" on June 25 at 8PM at The Creek & The Cave. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins 🎤 Guest: Diamond Dior Davenport | @diamonddiordavenport (verify handle before posting) 📍 Austin, TX Stream Diamond's album "Emotions of a Boss" — and keep an ear out for her new track dropping soon. This episode is brought to you by Createscape — Austin's queer-owned co-working space in East Austin. Open 24/7, private meeting rooms, open seating, coffee, and good vibes. Mention Messy Thoughts for a FREE day pass. www.createscapework.co 📲 Follow us: messythoughts.com | @messythoughtspod 💌 Contact: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere you get podcasts Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis.

"Food Talk (DO YOU WANT A REVOLUTION) with Rell Rugely" - Messy Thoughts 34

MESSY THOUGHTS 34. BJ and LeBron finally run the tapes on how they actually met Austin food creator Rell Rugely (@RellEatsWorld) — fully nude, fully confident, broad daylight, on a boat at Splash. From there it only gets messier: they pitch an all-Black takeover boat for next year's Pride season ("BABS 2027"), spiral into a 2000s R&B nostalgia tour that nobody asked for, and debate whether Interview with the Vampire is the gayest show on Netflix. Then Rell gets into it for real — building an Austin food page from nothing, the actual math behind what makes a TikTok video pop off, why her comments are filtered, the PR-freebie hustle that almost wasn't worth it, and what it took to finally quit her day job and go full-time. We get into production, perfectionism, the real cost of content creation, her familiar (boyfriend) Tyler, and the made-up words — "delishante," "diabetical" — that somehow caught on with her followers. We close it all out with a full round of The Cookout: Terry Black's vs. HEB Barbecue, Juan in a Million vs. Whip My Soul, Whataburger vs. In-N-Out, and the most heated debate of the episode — is it pecan, or is it PEcan? This is our first Cancer guest. Groundbreaking. 🍽️ Follow Rel: @RellEatsWorld on Instagram & TikTok 🖤 All our socials: MessyThoughts.com 📧 Email us: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 💬 Leave a comment — we read every single one (eventually, after we stop drafting the clapback) #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #AustinTX #RellEatsWorld #ATXFoodie #BlackCreators #QueerPodcast #TalkShowPodcast #ContentCreator #TheCookoutGame #AustinPodcast #BlackOwnedAustin #PodcastClips #ZodiacTalk #GayPodcast

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