Now that we've laid the foundation for what the clown community is and some of the benefits it can provide its members, we wanted to talk with some actual clowns and get their perspective!

Jake and Maisy sit down with Cait the Clown: professional children's clown, emotional support clown, and possibly the nicest person on the internet.

We discuss the clowning journey, how she built her local community in Massachusetts, and the online versus in-person clowning community. You can also expect to hear a lot about how silliness and tomfoolery can be powerful tools for resistance and change in the face of oppression.

Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini

Clips:

• May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
• The Thing (1982)
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