Annie’s still sick, but she and Ellyn power through a cozy, feel-good chat about all the things making them happy this season—from collecting miniatures and toddler fixations to nostalgic tech, seasonal baking.

They also dive into why it’s so hard to find a good book lately, how television shows and reading are more connected than we think, and that there is only one right way to do a cop procedural. Plus, their favorite fall shows and movies—and yes, apple cider donuts definitely make an appearance.

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