My next guest, Scott McVay, helped the world to hear whales sing for the first time.

With his wife Hella, he co-discovered the songs of humpback whales—an underwater symphony that became a vinyl phenomenon in 1970 and forever changed how we listen to the sea.

His work on whale songs has appeared in Science and Scientific American, and his books, Whales Sing and Other Exuberances and Surprise Encounters, capture a lifetime of listening in deep kinship with the living world.