What do you do when the biggest case of your career ends in a loss the whole country is watching?

Brian Sano spent years as a federal prosecutor, including a seat at the table for one of the most closely watched trials of 2008 financial crisis. In this episode, he takes us inside the courtroom the moment the verdict was read.

Brian shares how he learned to separate who he is from his role, why he believes leadership is "an art of seeing," and how a sticker in his father's car when he was fifteen, "I am a human being, not a human doing," has shaped every chapter of his career since.

We also talk about the small, tight-knit team that got him through the trial and taught him what real psychological safety looks like, and an early lesson in where systems support us and where they fail us.

A conversation about grief, authority, ...