In Episode 2 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke tackle a question that affects all of us: How far would you go to get ahead?

What starts as a discussion about the controversy surrounding relationship coach and media personality Dr. Cheyenne Bryant quickly evolves into a deeper conversation about ethics, credentials, business, capitalism, and the choices people make in pursuit of success.

Is bending the truth ever justified if it helps you achieve your goals?

Can you be both successful and ethical in a capitalist society?

And what lessons should we be teaching our children about ambition, integrity, and risk?

We also discuss:

The difference between coaching and licensed mental health professions

Why titles and credentials matter

Capitalism, wealth, and the pursuit of success  ...