Matthew debates with his guest, artist manager George Littlejohn, about The Jacksons and which is the better album, 1978's "Destiny" or 1980's "Triumph." Matthew is Team Destiny while George is Team Triumph. Who made the better argument? Leave you comments and subscribe!

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